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If you ask any Jew in Israel, "Who gave you Palestine?" [They have all programmed themselves with the idea of Genesis 17:8] Without the slightest hesitation every Jew will reply 'GOD!' That it was God Almighty who had given Palestine, to the Jews. But over 75% of the Israeli Jews if questioned "Do you believe in God?" They immediately respond with "NO!" Yet these atheist and agnostic Jews falsely use !God's name for their usurpation of the land of the Palestinians
EXAMINE THEIR FANCIFUL CLAIM!: Memorise the above verse in full - "And I will give unto thee.. ..all the land of Canaan..." Gen.17:8. It will prove invaluable against all Christian and Jewish Zionists. So this is the Jewish "Holy Tide Deed" to see and bring about its fulfilment, the Muslims have done nothing over the past thousand years to remove this misconception! They have to convince the Jews and the Christians to the fact that morally and ethically the Jews have no right to Palestine
TRUE TEST OF PROPHECY: While the other Jews were keenly following the discussion as I told my employer, 'What you have quoted from your Torah' (the first 5 Books of the Bible are common to both the Jews and Christians), is a prophecy of what God Almighty had promised to Abraham and his descendants for ever." He replied, 'Yes!' I said, "God gives us in the Torah a test with which we can ascertain whether a prophecy attributed to Him is actually His Word or not. He :says And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not ? spoken When a prophet speaketh in the name of the lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing the Lord hath not spoken, but the Prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Holy Bible (Deuteronomy 18:21- 22)I asked him, "Is this a valid test?" To which he replied, "Yes!" I said, "Then let us apply it to the - prophecy!" The Torah says that on the death of Abraham And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave....The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Herb: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife. Holy Bible (Genesis 25:9-10)
TRUE TEST OF PROPHECY: While the other Jews were keenly following the discussion as I told my employer, 'What you have quoted from your Torah' (the first 5 Books of the Bible are common to both the Jews and Christians), is a prophecy of what God Almighty had promised to Abraham and his descendants for ever." He replied, 'Yes!' I said, "God gives us in the Torah a test with which we can ascertain whether a prophecy attributed to Him is actually His Word or not. He :says And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not ? spoken When a prophet speaketh in the name of the lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing the Lord hath not spoken, but the Prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Holy Bible (Deuteronomy 18:21- 22)I asked him, "Is this a valid test?" To which he replied, "Yes!" I said, "Then let us apply it to the - prophecy!" The Torah says that on the death of Abraham And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave....The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Herb: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife. Holy Bible (Genesis 25:9-10)
And further, the Bible testifies about God's unfulfilled "Promises to the patriarch Abraham and the :elders of Israel in these words These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off.. Holy Bible (Hebrews 11:13) ?And can anything be more explicit than these statements from the Holy Writ And God said unto him (Abraham), Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, .and come into the land which 1 shah show thee Then came he out of the land of the Chaldeans, and dwelt in Haran; and from there, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land (Palestine) in which ye now .dwell And he (God) gave him (Abraham) no inheritance in it, NO, NOT SO MUCH AS TO SET HIS FOOT UPON; yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him..... Holy Bible (Acts 7:3-5)
STILL SOME GOOD JEWS: I asked my Jewish visitors whether these simple facts were "GospelTruth", and to my amazement my boss as a spokesman the group, answered, "YES!" This - confirmed for me this Qur'anic statement
STILL SOME GOOD JEWS: I asked my Jewish visitors whether these simple facts were "GospelTruth", and to my amazement my boss as a spokesman the group, answered, "YES!" This - confirmed for me this Qur'anic statement
THAT AMONG THEM (the Jews and the Christians) ARE MU'MINS (Sincere, faithful people) BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE PERVERTED TRANSGRESSORS. [Holy Qur'an 3:110]
We must find ways and means of communicating with these Mu'mins - sincere, godly people .among the Jews and the Christians When my employer agreed that the facts of unfulfilled promises in the Bible were, according to his knowledge correct, I said. "In that case God Almighty could never have made such promises,God also confirms in the Holy Qur'an that if He makes a promise, His promise MUST 'come to pass' in Deuteronomy 18:22
THE PROMISE OF ALLAH IS TRUE. Holy Qur'an 4:122
The conclusion was that the Jewish title deed to Palestine based on the prophecy of Genesis 17:8 was invalidated by the test given in the last Will and Testament of Moses - Deuteronomy 18:22. For a reasonable Jew like my employer the discussion was over. But I wanted to pursue the dialogue further, so I said, "I am prepared to concede that God did make such a promise as - "I will give unto thee and to thy seed after thee, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting .)possession." (As if Palestine was my father's property ABRAHAM'S SEED: Conceding the point that the prophecy in question was authoritative, I asked, "Who is the seed of Abraham?" Without the slightest hesitation Mr. Beare replied, "We, the Jews!" I said, "No doubt, you are the sons and seed of Abraham, but are you the only seed? No less than in twelve places, in the first Book of the Bible, Ishmael the progenitor of the Arabs is :spoken of as the son and seed of Abraham And Hagar bore Abram (changed to Abraham by God in Genesis 17:5) a son: and :
1 ) Abram caded his SON'S name, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Holy Bible (Genesis 16:15) And Abraham took Ishmael, his SON... (Genesis 17:23) .
2) And Ishmael, his SON, was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh .
3 ) of his foreskin. Holy Bible (Genesis 17:25) In the very same day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael, his SON. (Genesis 17:26)
4) And his SONS Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron... (Genesis 25:9)
Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's SON, whom Hagar the Egyptian.... (Genesis 25:12)
If the Lord God, disdaineth not to recognise Ishmael as the SON and SEED of Abraham in the Torah, who are we to deny him his patrimony. Indeed, God will not allow the rights of the "first-born" to be jeopardised even if the child is the offspring of a hated wife (Deuteronomy 21:16)
Why should not the Children of Ishmael (the Arabs) and the Children of Isaac (the Jews) live in peace and harmony and enjoy the blessings of God together in the land of promise?
IS MIGHT RIGHT ?
Theoretically my employer was prepared to concede the points, but prejudices die hard. He retorted, "Deedat, Palestine belonged to us, we ruled it under David and Solomon!" I said, "Sir, if having ruled a territory once by force of arms, entitles you to repossess it, then we Muslims, if we had the power, would equally be justified to reconquer Spain. We Muslims ruled that country for almost eight hundred years. A longer period of time than the Jews ever ruled parts of Palestine! The only thing really worth seeing in Spain are the magnificent gardens and fountains, and monumental buildings the Muslims left behind. Does that entitle the Muslims to recolonise Spain? And on the same basis, would the Dutch be entitled to invade Indonesia, because their ancestors" ruled it for three centuries? Or, could the Italians lay claim to Britain because the Romans ruled it"?at one stage under Caesar No!" said Mr. Beare, "Those were foreign conquests, but Palestine is our Motherland, we have" ".only taken back what we have been wrongfully dispossessed I beg your pardon," I said, "there is a grave historical oversight on your part here. The Jews also," under Joshua, invaded Palestine over three thousand years ago and conquered the inhabitants of the land. It was no virgin territory ready to be bethrothed. You conquered thirty kingdoms in as many days (Joshua 12:24). Twelve united tribes of Israel against each divided village state, with their little village chief whom you called "kings!" So you knocked over the Amorites, the Edomites, the Philistines, the Moabites, the Hittites and other too numerous to mention. You destroyed them utterly and they came back for more. And again you "destroyed them utterly," and yet they "!were there And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.(Joshua 6:21)
CRY WITH RODINSON
With all the destruction of past, present and future for Israel there is a perpetual spectre of war. Without friendly co-operation with the Arabs there can be no solution to the Jewish problem in Palestine. Morally and ethically the Jews have no right to Palestine. Rodinson, an elite Jew says - in his book - "Israel and the Arabs:
BUT FOR ONE THING, THEY (the Israelis) CANNOT BE SAID TO HAVE A HISTORIC RIGHT TO A" PIECE OF TERRITORY BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR ANCESTORS SUPPOSEDLY INHABITED IT TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. FOR ANOTHER, THEY OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAVE DONE A CONSIDERABLE WRONG TO ANOTHER PEOPLE, IN DEPRIVING THEM OF RIGHTS AT LEAST AS .GREAT AS THEIR OWN THE BITTERNESS FELT BY THE PEOPLE TO WHOM THIS WRONG WAS DONE STILL PERSISTS, AND AS LONG AS IT DOES, THE RIGHTS OF THE ISRAELIS WILL REMAIN PURELY HYPOTHETICAL - THEY CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE ARABS WILL ONE DAY RECOGNIZE AND ACCEPT THEM. ONLY .THEN WILL THEIR RIGHTS BECOME REAL THE ARABS, TOO, HAVE RIGHTS. IN MANY RESPECTS, THEY MAY JUSTIFIABLY BE HELD TO BE GREATER THAN ISRAELIS'. THE ARABS OF PALESTINE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS OVER PALESTINE TERRITORY AS THE FRENCH EXERCISE IN FRANCE AND THE ENGLISH IN ENGLAND. THESE .RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION ON THEIR PART ".THE WRONG DONE TO THE ARABS BY THE ISRAELIS IS VERY REAL With all the admissions, confessions and mortifications, the Jew persists - WE POSSESS PALESTINE, WE KEEP PALESTINE! Possession is nine-tenth of the law. This was the attitude of my employer too. So, I asked, "How did you (meaning the Jews) possess it?" By force of arms? ".Then by force of arms the Arabs have every right to seek to repossess their homeland.
With all the destruction of past, present and future for Israel there is a perpetual spectre of war. Without friendly co-operation with the Arabs there can be no solution to the Jewish problem in Palestine. Morally and ethically the Jews have no right to Palestine. Rodinson, an elite Jew says - in his book - "Israel and the Arabs:
BUT FOR ONE THING, THEY (the Israelis) CANNOT BE SAID TO HAVE A HISTORIC RIGHT TO A" PIECE OF TERRITORY BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR ANCESTORS SUPPOSEDLY INHABITED IT TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. FOR ANOTHER, THEY OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAVE DONE A CONSIDERABLE WRONG TO ANOTHER PEOPLE, IN DEPRIVING THEM OF RIGHTS AT LEAST AS .GREAT AS THEIR OWN THE BITTERNESS FELT BY THE PEOPLE TO WHOM THIS WRONG WAS DONE STILL PERSISTS, AND AS LONG AS IT DOES, THE RIGHTS OF THE ISRAELIS WILL REMAIN PURELY HYPOTHETICAL - THEY CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE ARABS WILL ONE DAY RECOGNIZE AND ACCEPT THEM. ONLY .THEN WILL THEIR RIGHTS BECOME REAL THE ARABS, TOO, HAVE RIGHTS. IN MANY RESPECTS, THEY MAY JUSTIFIABLY BE HELD TO BE GREATER THAN ISRAELIS'. THE ARABS OF PALESTINE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS OVER PALESTINE TERRITORY AS THE FRENCH EXERCISE IN FRANCE AND THE ENGLISH IN ENGLAND. THESE .RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION ON THEIR PART ".THE WRONG DONE TO THE ARABS BY THE ISRAELIS IS VERY REAL With all the admissions, confessions and mortifications, the Jew persists - WE POSSESS PALESTINE, WE KEEP PALESTINE! Possession is nine-tenth of the law. This was the attitude of my employer too. So, I asked, "How did you (meaning the Jews) possess it?" By force of arms? ".Then by force of arms the Arabs have every right to seek to repossess their homeland.
[Excerpts from lecture/ book "Arabs and Israel Conflict or Conciliation" By Ahmed Deedat]
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